On Monday, Donald Trump announced Ohio Senator J.D. Vance as his 2024 running mate. A recent convert to the MAGA movement, Vance has championed Trump’s “America First” foreign policy vision and vocally denounced NATO and U.S. support for Ukraine.

What might his selection signal both for the future of U.S. foreign policy and for the direction of the Republican party?

In this episode, Jacob Heilbrunn speaks with Harry J. Kazianis, executive editor of The National Interest. Kazianis previously served as part of the foreign policy team for Senator Ted Cruz's 2016 presidential campaign and worked for the conservative Heritage Foundation.

More About Jacob Heilbrunn: Jacob Heilbrunn is editor of The National Interest and is a nonresident senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s Eurasia Center. He has written on both foreign and domestic issues for numerous publications, including The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, Foreign Affairs, Reuters, Washington Monthly, and The Weekly Standard. He has also written for German publications such as Cicero, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, and Der Tagesspiegel. In 2008, his book They Knew They Were Right: the Rise of the Neocons was published by Doubleday. It was named one of the one hundred notable books of the year by The New York Times. He is the author of America Last: The Right’s Century-Long Romance with Foreign Dictators.

More About Harry J. Kazianis: Harry J. Kazianis (@Grecianformula or Email: [email protected]) is Senior Director of National Security Affairs at the Center for the National Interest. He also serves as Executive Editor of its publishing arm, The National Interest. He previously served as part of the foreign policy team for the 2016 presidential campaign of Senator Ted Cruz. Kazianis, in the past, also managed the foreign policy communications efforts of the Heritage Foundation. He also served as Editor-In-Chief of the Tokyo-based The Diplomat magazine and as a WSD-Handa Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS): PACNET. Kazianis has also held foreign policy fellowships at the Potomac Foundation and the University of Nottingham. Kazianis is a widely published author (over 1000 op-eds) and a frequent contributor to many publications around the globe. This includes almost 100 op-eds for Fox News Opinion as well as columns for publications such as USA Today, CNBC, Yale Global, The Week, The Washington Times, The Lowy Interpreter, ASPI’s The Strategist, The Diplomat, The National Interest, and many others.

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